Reviving a Church & Serving the Community | Pastor Charles Wilson

In this episode of Panhandle Pulse, host Chuck Asbury sits down with Pastor Charles Wilson of The Chapel at Crosspoint in Santa Rosa Beach, Florida for an inspiring conversation about faith, leadership, and community impact in the Florida Panhandle.

Pastor Wilson shares the incredible story of how a struggling church with just eight members transformed into a thriving congregation that now supports multiple ministries and nonprofit organizations across the region. What began as a mission to help close a small church turned into a powerful example of faith, perseverance, and community service.

Throughout the conversation, Pastor Wilson and Chuck discuss:

• The history of the church dating back more than 70 years in South Walton
• How The Chapel at Crosspoint helped launch several other churches in the area
• Supporting local nonprofits providing food, medical, and dental care
• The importance of churches working together across denominations
• The role faith plays in building stronger communities
• Disaster relief and the vision for a future community support facility
• Challenges facing the Florida Panhandle including workforce shortages, housing affordability, and infrastructure growth

Pastor Wilson also reflects on his unconventional journey into ministry, his passion for theology and community service, and why helping others has become the most fulfilling work of his life.

If you're interested in faith, leadership, community development, nonprofit work, or the future of Florida’s Panhandle, this episode offers meaningful insight and inspiration.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Welcome to the Pain Handle Pulse, the show that dives into real challenges and honest conversations shaping the Florida pain handle. I'm your host, Chuck Asbury. Each week we sit down with the people who make our community strong, sharing real issues, real conversations, and no filters. Welcome back to Pang How Poss. I got a great guest in Charles Wilson, Daniel. He is the pastor at the chapel at Frost Point here in Golf Place in San Rosie Beach, Florida. Welcome to the show. Good to be here. We got introduced from uh Judson. He was on the show a few months ago. Tell us your story. How did you get to the Panhandle of Florida?

SPEAKER_01 0:47

Like many other people, first vacation for years, our children. And when our careers came to the end, we decided to uh make this our program home. And uh, you know, up until the end, we were we grew up in Northwest Arkansas, our family today, spent all of our lives there working on professionalized, like many others filmed the uh Gulf Coast Colleges. So that's that's how we got here. Okay. So you lived in the area for how many years now? We came in 2005. Like that we've been here 21 years. Well, I mean, we've been here, we've been here uh for 10. How did you get into uh ministry and find a church here? So Cindy and I have worked in churches our entire life, and as uh with that mature in in our life, I was asked to uh lead smaller churches that were having difficulties, and uh, we were able to support our efforts through our professional careers and uh did that all and off throughout our lives. So when we came here, we learned was not food. The ministry was to actually retire. And uh dear friend of mine called Russia Little, and I still don't know how to be phoned out. I came. There's this little church that is struggling. In fact, uh they it looks like they're gonna uh dissolve. And would you go uncomfortable with that process? It's a sad process, really, when you think about a church losing the resources that it needs to move on. So I came and met with a small group, and when I say small, there was eight people to make a long story short, that wasn't what uh was in the stars for us. Right. The dives later. And uh the uh it uh grew traction and had an influx of people, and uh here we are. Yeah. So weeks ago we had definitely remotely a bit. So it's that's a um a good story. The bleakest hours sometimes are just uh preparation for things that are coming. Yeah, I always tell us how we talk about valleys before the highs. It's a learning process. It's uh part for you to grow and test in your faith.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

Growth usually doesn't happen until for So the process of coming to already the church here, it it's uh as you were saying, it's I guess the the land is pretty much owned already by the church before you came and shut it down.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

So how did you know about the problem? Well, that is a a great story within itself. This goes back 70 plus years. Dr. Spyers, a physician and definitive experience, helped the family, as I heard the story. The family was not able to, or didn't have the funds really. But they did have some resources to trade for his services, and it was a parcel of land in South Walton. 75, 80 years ago, this property was worth a dollar and eight acre, that's which is not the case today. And so this property was gifted by Dr. Spider. See, obviously a very visionary, yeah, and probably in his own right, saw that South Walton would at one time go into a community, and uh he wanted a church here. So he gifted the land, and the church began in 1951 uh as the first Baptist church of Santa Rosa Beach. Wow. And uh so that that's at the beginning of that. And um this first building was just uh a concrete structure, and then 15 years later the sanctuary and the the area we're setting in was at it. Wow, and that's the history of the building.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

So so when you came and you have a small group of people and you're in the process of of trying to ship down a church or or sell the church, how did that uh go until where we already did, where it's thriving and you've had other churches coming there?

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Well, when we first came in 2005, you know, there was an effort maybe to revitalize the church. But then the recession of 7, 8, and 9 came along and and uh and in that this area is really service driven to support tourism. And 7, 8, and 11 was not a good year to to be in that service. So a lot of people had to leave and go elsewhere for for uh employment, but after that, we had the opportunity to help some other churches. Hulk Louis and Church was looking for a place uh to get on their feet, so they used our building. And through the years, we've had several churches use this sort of a launching pad for their work, uh the watershed church, where Walter Urey is their pastor, Apostles built the sea, an Angekal Church in Rosemary Beach Met Deer, uh, Simple Faith Met Deer, Calvary Met Deer. I the list goes on. I think there are total about seven or eight churches that have used this facility to come get on their feet until they can afford their own location and uh uh to the leadership leader who saw the church in its weakest moments, appreciated help that came. And so we've always been able to lend a helping hand to others as as they try to get on their feet as well. And that may be about itself one of the things that made the chapel successful, that people are drawn to something that's good, and helping others is good. Yeah. And uh uh and it's it's such a blessing to me personally to go to a pastor's meeting where there's you know a dozen pastors and four or five of them came out here. I did not we we didn't support, but they used this susceptible launching pattern for what they'd have.

SPEAKER_00 7:01

Yeah, and I think that's uh an amazing story from uh the church background from playing in church myself, going to different denominations of church, that you guys were open to using or providing to you as a blessing to other churches to a lot of other churches, which most of them today's world churches don't focus that way. And I think that's a huge definitive for you guys.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

Well, it's and that's always been a mystery to me. You know, church is, of course, being Protestant, there for the the the spread of the gospel and how you use the gospel and apply it into your everyday life, regardless of what have the window of of environment you're in and the principles and virtues of Christianity fly. And so that's in general. So why don't they all people are doing the same thing you are uh and not letting the small things uh that somewhat divide denominations not let that be your driving point, but the bigger picture is your driving point. And that then if you seek to find something that's more agreeable with your with your uh doctrinal stance, don't go find that. Well, at least use that as a basin like you guys as a playing for you that it is open to spread the gospel, which is the main point. Yeah, absolutely. I think that has bled into the the mindset of the people here, is that they're very open to helping other people. And you know, we we'd have the traveling Vietnam Memorial Wall, for example, needed a place to to to put up their their display. And we worked with the uh Gulf Cemetery across the road to make that happen. So it it's good having relationships inside the community because that's where we live. I mean, we want to benefit it, not be a distraction to it. Yeah, and that's great. And you have a board that was open to see that. We have a great board. Jim Edwards is our chair, and he's uh not a life law resident, but then we hear Lady Lady Airs, and he's a developer, just a great, great leader, and the rest of the board as well. They have that mentality of we're in it's we're in something bigger than ourselves. It's not about us, it's what we can do in behalf of our Lord for the community that we live in. And uh that seems to work real well.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Yeah, I think that's the main focus of the Python scripturism to cheat the Maybellines yourself and expand the community for the better, not focus on the negatives around it or continue with all that craziness that we're in now. And just in church, to me, is is just as it says in the scripture, wherever two more meet, God is present. So you guys are doing exactly that. And you're you typically tell us before it's Sundays are packed. If you don't come early, you don't get a season, right? That's a that's a good reputation that I know. That's right. Yeah. And you guys sort of stay true to your uh your service time.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

So you guys just do one service time, not expand behind that. We started to and I said I would say for uh for the next turn of you, if you were standing on the front porch looking in, you would say that's a very traditional church. And um that I would say that's accurate in that the music. If you've been in church a long time, you probably know what the songs that we use, and you've heard them. In fact, um suddenly many times I will just sit there and listen to the folks sleeping behind me because they're they're they're acquainted with what's happening. Right. And there's a comfort level. So yes, we're going to be uh considered a more traditional conservative group.

SPEAKER_00 10:43

And so by expanding into allowing IRS to church to be in the news of the church as well, you've actually also helped other uh nonprofits uh in the area as well through charity.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

I've been on the board of several nonprofits in the area, one locally that's just probably within a mile of yours, Carrie and Charity. We've worked with them through the past, been on their board and and we support them financially. We also have a group of people that go over and uh help them put up food. Yeah, feed, I don't know that I have the worms correct, but it's feed the golf. They receive two truckloads of food. It's a semi-carot. Yeah. And so we have 12, 15 people that go over and put that food away so it can be put into smaller packages and deliver to the folks in the area who's carrying and sharing dumb stuff to about a thousand families a month. I'm on the board of the uh Crossroads Center, which is a medical dental clinic. We provide uh free medical and dental to those individuals who qualify and who don't have access to medical and dental care. And we provided last year, think this is right,$1.4 million worth of free care to the community. Yeah, that's amazing. I mean, if you're at all at it, I mean what's on your mind is not praying. Right. I mean, you the whole person is necessary to really, really function properly. And so a person who has a labcess, tooth, you know, what they are dealing with is the pain of that attract. And if we can relieve that some way, and it lets them live a much better life. That's really been a blessing to me to work with with that center. In fact, we're building a new building right now. It's debt-free. I prefer to give everything debt free. Just better economics. And the stress of continuing to worry about building and financing and where the next generation gives a community to go. Well, you never know what the economy's going to do. And unfortunately, in the Southern Hungary session and other slows in uh economy. See, churches struggle during that, especially when they have a large debt service. And that keeps them from actually taking those funds and doing other things with them. I'd prefer to see what comes in go out and support other people or other organizations that that are serving the community. You know, we have several nonprofits that we support, not their entire operations, but support from our phones direct uh their operations. Yeah, and you're saying that they have uh you guys do uh a Sunday or a weekend where the groups that you support come in and set up the tables in that job for you. Yeah, we have a I I guess call an outreach Sunday, and uh we invite the people that we work with, that we support and work with to come and set up a table display of what they do, and and it gives our people an opportunity. If you you come in and you said in the queue, you see that's right. But it's a benefit to go into the fellowship hall and meet people that all this supports. Yeah. And get to talk to uh Vanessa about the clinic. Tell me about the clinic. You know, I've got a neighbor. Maybe they need Vanessa, uh, maybe CBHM, maybe they have children who need dental care in the area. Uh it's a good way of helping nonprofits have a little more exposure than they have. What I have seen nonprofits do is they're very good at doing what they do. Sometimes you're not very good about telling the owners about it. It's it's I almost said it's a secret, but their uh marketing is well, they spend their efforts in helping people rather than patting themselves on the back. And yet some people need their back padded because they do excellent things. I always need to hear about it, and they're they're worried too busy doing the work and not focused on letting people know about the good things that they're doing. And I hear people saying, Oh, I didn't know they did that. Right. That accomplishes spreading the word about what somebody does in the community. Yeah. Um and even in here a few weeks from now, we had a a missionary coming in that works overseas. And we invited a couple of churches come and joined us. We'll have a good crowd that night to listen to what she does in the community that she serves in a completely different region of the world. Right. And that I think that shows people that the Lord's work is much bigger than this church, this state, this country. It's it's bigger than all that. And we don't see it. We see our world, we see our environment, we kind of lose touch with the fact there's people doing the same thing we're doing on the other side of the world, right with populations that we know nothing about. Yeah. Know very little about. We always stand out, blah, blah, blah, look how free shot, and so we don't expand or futures have happened. I've heard that the only thing it really wants to change as a baby. Kids as they grow up, they would be adults as quick as they can. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

When you go adult, you're like, that should have been a kid longer. Uh no, I mean, you guys are doing some great things. Uh I'm glad Jud Justin connected us together. But uh, how did you get into ministry? That you it wasn't your calling when you came here, you assume you're retiring now after pastoring this uh amazing church right here.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

Well, I love research. I love to read, I like to investigate things. So theology, although I've never been to seminary, I guess you might say I've self-trained myself in college and postgraduate degrees, taught me how to do all that. And so I just applied those same skills to Christianity and really enjoy the digging into things. And that keeps my mind sharp. You know, I I think probably I get a lot more out of the church than the church gets relief because it it's uh beneficial to me to keep active, to keep my mind working, to do something I really enjoy. Some people say, You're still working, I'm not working. Right. I've heard that if you do something you enjoy, you'll never work a day in your life. That's what I'm doing. Yeah. This was this has probably been the most fulfilling part of my life, although I've had tremendous professional career, this is probably the most fulfilling thing I've ever done in my life. And that's an amazing. It's a good testament to where can you come from. Like I think uh, especially now day and age, and I think back in in the early stages of Christianity, there wasn't theology, there wasn't the training of the Bible to go and become a minister. You bring your life lessons of how you grew up and building communities and working in businesses to bring out mindset for the church, which is a great asset. Yes. Um I've toyed with the idea of of doing something there, because everything long distance. Yeah. Uh but I just don't find the time now. And that's all time is very fresh to me. And so I focus first of all on what I can do here, and uh then someday maybe I'll do something different. It's I think maybe I have an advantage, if if you want to call it that, that uh I speak a language that's not so a degree because of of my background sort of many years in healthcare and then then again uh variety of professional career and taught at college and you know, managed level courses and things of that nature. So I have a uh vocabulary that represents that. Yeah. And I mean a lot of people hear that. I mean, they do uh, you know, I know what a critical pathway is. So I'll use that terminology, and there's a lot of people that oh yeah, I know what that either. That doesn't tell me you learned in seminary, right? And and yeah, seminary is uh is a vital part of the training of many minister clinics. And I want people to have the opportunity to go and to learn and and to take that learning into their minister careers, correct? It's it's a great pathway, it is. Yeah, just not a pathway. Not able to to I guess Joe P. I mean John is a minister, yeah, yeah, and is well trained and a super, super guy, and great speaker, and uh you know, his movement three ministries different than mine. Not better or worse, not different to mine.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

Yeah, and again that he said we can speak differently too and connect more uh with people speaking past where it was different.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

I think that's just a testament of how God used you through your path to get to where you are today. I see a lot. I I think if you look at our congregation, many of them are in that time of life where they're ending their careers or have ended their careers. And because we have an older, older congregation, half of it probably is over 55, if not more. And many of them have second homes here, you know, they have professional background homes. As I said, this area is that, or you're in your real estate, their development is the second. Yeah. And so they're comfortable. In fact, I've known some of them before they came here. And so there's a comfort level there of our background. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:41

Oh, that's good. Um, so what is the plans for uh the next five years that you see uh as you mount this out and other work that you're involved in now?

SPEAKER_01 20:51

Well, uh, you know, a dream come true if if you get dreams to come true would be an 80, 80 multipurpose building that would be able to serve this community beyond the the church's need. My son-in-law works, well, he works for J.K. But in his uh spare time, he works with the disaster relief team. And because of that, I've been exposed to the disaster relief teams, probably one of the greatest kept secrets in the world, people who actually go and tell people after disaster. And I look at where we live, and I've realized that it's not if it's cleven. We need those services. And I think a multi-purpose building that would serve the needs of the chapel itself, the basketball courts, the meeting rooms and so on, and so on, kitchens and all. If it was designed in a way that had capacity to feed people that in a crisis without electricity, you know, you need things like just a meeting of a day, showers for. People come and refresh you sell you a way to not say a disaster relief location, but a building that could provide some of that to the community after after indeed like that. Yeah, that's amazing distressing what's going on, yeah. And I think that came to blame more than anything we'd like to be a panel of city. Right. And we had people leave this chapel every day, going over to Delphi. And people would bring, they would bring water, they'd bring clothing, they'd bring, you name it, they'd bring it here, and people would come here, pick it up, and take it over there. We had to what we call a chain-soft crew. Yeah. We were one of many, but we saw a community that that needed that kind of support. And it would be good if our community needed that support. That we'd have at least a way to provide some of that care to our local community. Amazing how feet to be able to put here in the next few years. That's that's that's a dream. Yeah. And local willing, but you even can have uh members in your congregation that come from the Panama City area. Our worship leader comes from there. He performs Panama City all the way over here and all the way over here. It's not that far to and he drives from Lincoln. We have people that drive from the CNX Rings and Three Ports and uh Torreo. However, they were exposed to what we do, they like what we do, and they they drive to experience that. And a lot of them say, you know, the drive is not that bad. Right. You don't have the you know the competition for roads, fresh roads like, you know, on Saturday. Especially during spring break time like now, or tourist season, do you stay up there on Saturday? Spring break is a challenge for us. And yeah, you naturally to accept the fact that that that's a big part of our economy. Right. You know, we uh I'm not shown here. I chose to live here, and I'm so thankful that people welcome the center. Yeah. Keep in mind that that you know we can't close the borders. Right. So we uh we have to have tourism. Change the 25 years that you've been here until now I've been here, but you can't we can't change the area. This is amazing place. And when you talk about tourism, it's I guess the 8020 rule applies to everything. Most people come here to vacation to enjoy that time. Uh it you know, they're they're not a hazard to the community. Right, that small group that sometimes act out that that people label everybody else for them.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

I I think that uh you come up on a good point that we do in today's society is we take the worst piece, put a magnet sterile upon it, and focus on that versus the 80, 90 percent of everything else that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

We've had a negative uh our Western culture has a negativity bias. Yeah. And uh it's interesting that if something is goes wrong in our life, whatever that might be, we have a tendency to tell ten people plus, right? If something good happens, we you know we'll tell two or three people about it. I mean, I came in this morning and flipped the light switch on. If it hadn't turned on, I would respond much differently. I turn it on, did I call the electric company and say thanks? No. So that negativity bias is pretty heavy. You know, we we take a small brief and label everybody else with it.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

If you have free time, you should try to just call Choco.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

They probably wouldn't know how to respond to that. Oh, then here's complaints. It might make your day if you do that. Yeah, both businesses have complaint departments, blessing departments. That's I think that's a nice strategy when you get from that this year. Blessing departments, uh it's it's always good to tell someone you appreciate what they do. That's great. And it's an encouragement to them to continue doing good things. You know, I say one positive thing may change the person's whole day. Yeah. I was walking down surgery hall years and years ago. There was a physician who had been known to be somewhat on the negative side of things. And I was pushing him. And I was having a great day, and I was walking down the hall, and he just came out surgery. Boy, you're in a good mood. I said, it beats the alternative. And he stood at him about a week or so later, he came out and said, You know, I thought about what you said. And I I don't know what he did about it. Right. I think that just the word that beats the alternative sent the message, that's my choice. I choose to have that telegraph. I choose to look at things half, not right, more of a positive individual than a negative individual. I hope in it. I hope that comes across in my life.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

That's the first time we met until now. The story's like it you're definitely a positive person. It beats the offer. That's right. Like two years long enough for us to listen to that. That's right. So I look at these uh amazing pictures that you have in here from uh the Native American culture in here.

SPEAKER_01 27:21

How did all these have meaning to you? Well, my grandmother was on the uh original Cherokee Rose in the uh Indian territory, which now is on Toma. So our family has a Native American background. You know, it gets depleted after generation after generation. But anyway, I've always kind of had a uh soft spot in my heart for the Native Americans and the you know, the challenges that they get faced and and the mistreatment that it's built horrible to how use that term. So I've always enjoyed the Native American art and the artists, regardless of what venue they use. And uh so I'm always on the look for something, something different death, and how someone expresses themselves. And you see in a lot of the art that I've collected, but you see the uh Christian theme run through it. Right. You can just see that, that that had influence on the artist when they put together their work. I mean, this three set here, if you look at it, that one said us the vision, yeah, and said us the jar, and one said us the arrival. Well, that's that's that's Christian symbolism. And I I mean I just enjoyed that. Yeah, I'm passing too, every way people see the vision entering on there as most of us Christians when they can go through to the end, the arrival. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And that's why I think in the art that I collect, I see if I see the Christian symbolism in it, I'm drawn more to that and not say I don't appreciate others, but that sort of catches my attention when somebody does that. This this that's behind us, the Harris did this behind us. He's talking about two sides of things. Yeah. Two sides. And maybe it's a positive negative from anything, whatever it is. You know, we have a battle within ourselves, you know, ego trying to guide us, and sometimes we'd have to push it all the side. In fact, too much told me that a good acting for ego was engine God out. And that's interesting. Our ego can do that to us. Yeah, you really can. Yeah, it definitely can, because he would feel like uh you can push it out that uh you have it all under control. That's true.

SPEAKER_00 29:45

That's a great uh acting to remember that now. So uh it's been great spending time with you this morning. What uh I always have the podcast here with what is one of the biggest, and it can't be one, but uh one big issue or challenge that do you think that uh the panhandles face, and that you need to focus on.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

Well, right off the my end tells the the need for workers, the service industry drives this area. And I know that some organizations go outside the United States to bring individuals in and they house them and and support them in that way. But we have greater need than we have supply. Yeah. And we'd have people that do housekeeping as a living that drives from Alabama, just a southern Walton County. But yeah, we have because land is so valuable here, and property and houses are so valuable here, a lot of the entry-level people or service industry just do not have finances to live here. So they we've created a long-distance workforce. And if you've ever driven down 331 in the morning, you see the people coming to work. And we've not made it easy for them. Now, how to fix that? That's above my tape, but that's a that's a big need we have is is a service industry, and how do we support that and how do we grow that to the benefit not only of those who use the services, but to those who provide it. Right. That's probably one of the things that I see. Transportation is another. We we have an east-west corridor, the 98. Right. And if that goes down, we're stuck. Yeah. And I don't know if there is an answer to that or not. But I see that as a um yesterday coming here from a house, which is usually a 15-minute drive, was an hour. Yeah. And it's it and that doesn't lead up to tourist ministrich. Because if I'm a tourist, and I come here and I'm going to spend the day and I want to leave, and it takes me two hours to get there. I may not come back next year. Right. So there's an ebb and flow of needs in the community that that those are a couple of things.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

Yeah, and those are two main ones that I don't know if we have the exact answer that I have a fixture correct yet, but it does go with the main thing of it being infrastructure, where we are, where you're running. Some people say you're overdeveloping, some people say we're not, but you have to make sure the infrastructure is always accounted for when we do that because and just added red lights and the intersection doesn't solve the the issue.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

It doesn't mean if you can't supply water, a million dollars a house, it's worthless. Right. So, you know, the infrastructure is necessary to support everything that happens above it. Yeah. Uh and like I say, I I hope we've got individuals in the right spot to make sure that continues in the future. Because I enjoy living here. Every place to live. Yes, everybody's heard about it, you know. First we songs and phone magazines, and it's everywhere. In fact, I we tr we travel quite a bit, and uh uh it's it's not uncommon being another party in the United States and uh thing, where are you from? Well, I live between Panama City and Dustin in Florida. I know where that is. Yeah. Right. Yeah. We're well known beyond our our borders.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

Yeah. You just got to know exactly how I do it. I tell people where I'm from. I live between Santa Rosa Beach and Destin, because if I say Santa Rosa, they have no idea. They're like, where is that? And then when you say between Banamaw City and Destin, or you see the 38, they're like, oh, now I know. But no one knows that it's called Santa Rosa Beach. At all. And then if you say Port of Washington, then they're even more confused at where that really is. Right.

SPEAKER_01 34:01

Um, it's uh it's a great uh great place to be. Well, the people who have built here, local people from here, and there's very few of them, yeah, but I've been privileged to meet some of them. It's interesting to hear them talk about the transition they have seen in South Walton to Purland. You know, from a we live on an island, and from a time when people would bring their cattle and just let them run wild here and then port them back across the water, worthless money, rubbox in that sense, and eat sea up to where we are now. It's a tremendous change in the 70-year found here. In fact, the first time Cindy and I came here, all 38 was not paved. So I see us. Yeah. You say, what? Now you can't drive down 38 so many people. Tremendous change. And I think it's 34 change before. Oh, I think so. Yeah, I I I think so. Uh I'm curious as if is there another spot that exists like this area 70 years ago. Right. And if so, what's it gonna be in 70 years? If you go down the coast of Florida, is there another place like this? Or is it being populated to uh resemble each other anyway around the coast? Because we've got a long coast in Florida. Yeah, good, good question.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

So maybe it's to talk to about some of the real estate guys around here. They may uh be able to help you identify those areas. Well, let me know a model. So, Charles, thanks for uh today enjoying the conversation.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

I'm sure our listeners will uh uh as well. Well, thank you, and uh good luck to you and your podcast and your professional career in this.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

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